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Turns out that this scales up too. You can swim approximately as fast in a vacuum as you can in solid rock.
No. No. He's got a point.
@Never no it isn't
@Never somebody get the copypasta...
Mythbusters did an entire episode about this years ago. They also came to the conclusion of it's the same but they actually tested it for real by filling up pools with syrup and swimming in it.
Swimming through a more viscous liquid would require more effort / energy. The Mythbusters did an episode on this at human scale
IF MY MEMORY is good it was a non newtonian liquid
@vinestick 29 There's a Flash-Playerr who made a lego press and a crane. check him out. the more wheels he added the better it performed. No stress to his input energy
@Hey Girl I Like Your Kitchen Romania it’ll be harder to rotate more gears to get the same result
@amanda bin why not put more gears to relieve stress
@Gabriel Santana Cardoso if you were hovering above the liquid water/syrup then yes. Swimming in the syrup the drag force also increases (as viscosity increases).
The difference tho is that swimming through a higher viscosity uses more energy so you tire out faster. That’s why the Great Molasses Flood of 1919 that happened in Boston was so tragic.
Molasses is also a lot more viscous than maple, so most people died because the molasses froze stranding them for days on end. Due to which they died of thirst and other factors, and not because of them tiring out or drowning.
@Caitlyn Shannon check Sam O Nella's video about it
I didn't know that was a thing that happened until just now. The insanity of our history and how little we've actually learned from it is astounding.
@Random Guy 20XX No, it wasn’t hot. The molasses was kept at room temperature however it’s dangerous either way. The cooler the molasses got (it was a winter day) the thicker it got. The viscosity made it hard to rescue people.
Wasn't that stuff also hot?
I’m a competitive swimmer as I think that with good technique (meaning you swim with little resistance and have a good catch) because of how much easier it would be to get a more solid and powerful catch you could go faster in the syrup
This man answers questions I didn’t even know I had
So true- SO TRUE-
@Shane H Too bad I don't believe you.
Math in a nut shell
Honestly i would rather swim in water, because (ignoring the mess after) i don’t think i would be able to breathe as well, and i don’t quite have as much torque as that turtle apparently.
Yeah my body is more equipped to swimming in water. I get some in my mouth sometimes and I can easily swallow it, but syrup would be harder to get down so it would jar me a bit.
@Sarah Basto I'm pretty sure everyone breathes like all the time. At least every 30 seconds or so.
Do you breathe when swimming in water, btw? Holy lord, I'm wasting life watching and reading such stuff!
@Nicholas S imagine it in your ears
@Alex .G A ture gineus!
I would be interested to see how hydroplaning would work . Seeing as how some competitive swimming techniques (fly) require lifting yourself on top of the water as much as possible. Probably doesn't make a difference, but still.
But the fact that the pushing force is doubled means you need more energy and strength to keep pushing yourself forward So they might be the same speed but a person would run out of energy and drown much quicker
@Grace James The turtle is not the same as a human... Our muscles would become tired faster in a more viscous fluid. Moreover, moving a heavier substance requires more energy. That turtle doesn't have to breathe... We do. Breathing takes energy and in order to breathe you must expand your chest and displace whatever medium is around you. Displacing a heavier medium requires more energy then a lighter one. On top of that, you can very clearly see that the turtle in syrup cannot swim straight, but the one in water can. That is because the heavier liquid moves the object around easier making movements less efficient. Any movement of the syrup will move you further off course than the exact same movement in water. Meaning you will expend more energy stabilizing yourself. The turtles were able to ignore that factor because they are attached to a string that only allows forward movement. People don't have a safety string... Muscles also act differently than mechanical toys. You can exhaust muscles by simply putting pressure on them. If you place a 30lb weight on your chest and don't move, then remove that weight after two hours. Your muscles will feel sore afterwards. This would happen no matter were you applied the weight. You wouldn't technically be expending more energy than without the weight either. Yet you would still feel fatigued. We are squishy and not made of metal. Simply being in the syrup is putting more pressure on your entire body than being in water. That pressure will effect your muscles. Even treading water is going to be more difficult.Edit: You're looking at this as if forward movement is the only factor involved. It isn't. You're bodily processes will not function the same, so regardless of how much energy you're expending you will become exhausted faster. Stamina in humans is not only about energy. We aren't robots. You're smart, but you aren't actually applying critical thinking right now.
@Losers take the bait it’s not harder to swim in. You think the toy turtle in syrup used more energy than the one in the water?
@Grace James This has been tested on Myth busters. Swimming in syrup requires more energy than in water. Everyone got tired faster in the syrup. Basic bodily functions like breathing are also harder in the thicker fluid. The simple act of expanding your chest to breath requires more force than in water.Edit: Syrup is heavier than water meaning it requires more energy to displace. So while the act of moving forward might be roughly the same, every other process is going to require more energy. And like the video says, this test really only works with around a 2:1 ratio. The more viscous the liquid the harder it becomes to swim. If you made a pool of something that was 4x more viscous, the results wouldn't be the same.
The pushing force isn’t doubled, it’s halved. The force pushing against you is doubled. Making the average force needed to expend as you swim the exact same. :)
I love the experiments that you show on your videos. It's such a nice break from all the sad stuff we are constantly viewing. 🙃
This actually brought memories back for me. This was in an episode of Brainiac where the host swam in a pool of syrup.*it wasn’t very scientific to be clear haha
possible. Probably doesn't make a difference, but still.
Also, it would depend on the thickness on the syrup. I know that some are more liquidy, and some are thicker
I think you can bypass this issue with a jet powered catamaran. In fact the more viscous can offer more speed on lower speeds because you will lift easyer.
The real question is, does it take more or less EFFORT to swim through syrup compared to water?
Thank you so much now I can swim in syrup 🥰
@Pg13 i thaught id drown
@BSOD so you're telling him that he is criticizing a jelly bean fan but u disregarded the fact that the jelly bean guy was criticizing the roblox player
@A Nooby Guest cough cough Brookhaven yters.... So deadly cough
@A Nooby Guest she is!
The real question is, what kind of life would you have to live that it leads you to swim in syrup to survive?
Very cool and interesting. I never would've even questioned it. I definitely would've said water is quicker lol
"I made this syrup.."*pours jugs of labeled log cabin syrup*
He probably had to stir some stuff in to make it exactly 2x as viscous as water
Shhh! It's his syrup!
Totally! That was my favorite part. 😀
I'd like to see a larger scale test with robot swimmers. A 12" run isn't exactly definite.
For a moment there I thought he was going to swim in syrup to test the theory 🙂. Surprising result though .
That'd be the Mr beast version. Plus at the end he would buy everyone a house.
Brainiac did as well.
@wokeupinapanic they did honey and syrup
@IronIsKing no, it was definitely syrup. I literally just pulled it up to verify
Mythbusters did swin in syrup.
also, forward motion will be inconsistent in a viscous fluid. See how the turtle wobbles. That line represents the swimmers spine strength. So you’ll bê disoriented when trying to swim
But wouldn’t a higher viscosity cause faster muscle fatigue causing you to eventually become slower than swimming in water?
I feel like the more viscous the liquid the more energy would have to be exerted, regardless of the greater push you get per movement. Think quicksand.
Wouldn’t you have to use more force in the more viscous one so you would tire faster and in the long run be slower?
@Ryan Ford You're both right and wrong. Certain parts would be roughly the same. However, you would use more energy overall, without question. Moving a heavier liquid requires more energy. So when you inhale and expand your chest, that is going to require far more energy in Syrup, than in water. Furthermore, syrup affects the way you swim. If you watch the turtles in slow motion, the syrup one paddles slower, but it also does not move nearly as straight. You can clearly see it at normal speed too, but when it is slowed down the difference become way more apparent. The syrup is acting on the turtle. Meaning in order to swim perfectly straight in syrup, you have to fight the pressure pushing you from side to side. Therefore requiring more energy overall.I know there is a more scientific way of saying that last part. I don't really think the exact words matter. It will be harder to go straight in a more viscous fluid. Something heavier is going to have an easier time moving you than something lighter.
@Ryan Ford That doesn’t matter when we’re talking about muscles. More energy is getting transferred from the hand directly to the syrup, instead of with water where your hand will move behind you freely. This will severely increase muscle fatigue. Ride a bike up a hill a particular speed in low gear, then in high gear. Same distance over time, yet what makes you more tired?
@Elliot Bridge he said in the video that this stops being true after about 2 times as viscous, so ya swimming in wet concrete would be pretty difficult. In syrup however, it would not take any more effort than in water. The turtle toys have the same output force, but they're still going the exact same speed.
More viscous generally means heavier. It may be easier to push off but imagine swimming in wet concrete. It wouldnt cancel each other out.
This comment section is filled with scientists and here i am sigh 😕
I wonder if it would change with different swimming techniques though? I'd bet one that focuses more on strokes would be more effective in syrup
How does he always manage to make these so entertaining? 👁👄👁
Depends on syrup quality if you get it as the expensive very good fancy glass bottle delicacy it will be more watery and better tasting but if its the cheaper stuff in a plastic bottle it will be thick and hard to get through it will also harden after a while
I feel like this short distance causes confounding variables that ruin the confidence in the conclusion. It feels a larger space like a small pool or something would yield better results but I imagine the swimming techniques a person would use in a real situation would change matters a lot as well.
I think that in high level swimming competitions minimising drag gets very important.
I’ve never seen something so simple be so fascinating 🤨
Now I can swim in my syrup gladly knowing I’m not missing out on anything with it
I was a swimmer in high-school and you could tell when you went to other pools that there water was slightly thinner or thicker, and whenever I swam breaststroke I always swam faster in thicker water
I can imagine that swimming in syrup will take more energy tho, since you have you use more strenght to move
It would be easier for the toy to swim coz as the load increases the motor will start pulling power to keep up with the demand of power. Measuring the current drawing of the motor might help us understand what takes more energy even though its kinda looks like syrup would be harder
One could argue it would take more energy in the long run tho as you would potentially be giving more force to move through the liquid
There was actually an experiment were they tested a more viscous liquid than water and found out that we humans tend to be faster in the more viscous one but smaller animals would have a harder time
Imagine getting out of the pool of syrup. Imagine how sticky you would be
Just go to Canada, they will lick you clean.
@ちゃんねーづんいあまぁみ I have seen this so many times I know the words even if they are in a different language
Your hair though
I love the sounds it makes when they swim 😂 🐢
As a swimmer syrup would be much slower. Turns would be impossible and it would probably coat your mouth. Also, swimmers swim in cold-ish water. The temperature would cause the syrup to thicken more.
I needed this. I wanted to try filling up my entire pool with syrup. Now I know I can swim in syrup.
I wanna know what the hell the person at the store checkout must think of you with these items in your cart. Lol. Keep up the good work! Loving it!
We saw mythbusters years ago, this is a good reminder of the good 'ole days.
I feel like you'd get tired quicker in syrup, therefore directly affecting how fast you can swim when you have a set amount of stamina
What if you made is denser?I know you can’t float or swim in oil that’s 10% less dense than water, but would this still work in a liquid that’s twice as dense as water, not twice as viscous
I want to see this experiment but with the viscosity of a manure pit ( they’re well known for taking many lives because it’s so insanely hard to move in manure
Huge difference when you actually put a person in a pool of each compared to a super buoyant toy
Mythbusters tried the same experiment with actuall people in an actuall pool of sirrup and came to the same conclusion...
@Fishing and Freedom Fiend aw man I'm sorry you're like that, maybe you'll learn something from the comments then
“Im so smart you cant make me smarter” -the class idiot at his finest
@FreakOfFear yh and like what else can he rlly do, accturly swim in a pool of syrup?
Not necessarily. The swimming motions aren’t that far off. It’s good data
The only difference it’s the amount of energy you expend. In syrup you will need to use more strength because it’s thicker, but water in thinner so you don’t need as much strength.
This could actually be a pretty good science project
Yeah the real difficulty to swimming in it would be your ability to stay above the surface and not drown it seems.
I'd imagine it's much harder to swim in syrup as opposed to water, though. Simply because we're more accustomed to swimming in water.
I woke up today, wondering about Syrup swimming!!! I'm not making this up!!! 😂😂😂
Just watch the episode of Mythbusters
Syrup no thick enough
You’ve had your question answered! Congrats!
I'm always thinking about if someone filled a pool with nut 💀
Always been aftaid of swimming in lava, but you solved my issue. Thanks^^
I love your shorts! Thanks and keep em coming !
Wait! Are we or aren't we going to see you in swim trunks, covered in syrup, trying to swim? I think we should!
Action lab: "I made this syrup"Log cabin syrup: ☝️"um, excuse me sir"
What if you have a heavier liquid so you get more buoyancy and there’s less surface area for the drag to pull on
You could argue that for a human the syrup would hinder how well they can swim so they would end up going slower.
I think the swimmer would tire much quicker and I think it would also mean that momentum would not carry you as far
Well being a swimmer I think the viscous water would exhaust you much quicker and distance events would be much slower.
It would've been nice to mention that you'd also get tired faster in the fluid with the higher viscosity. But it's a nice video nontheless! 👍
I think the turtle in syrup moves its paws slower indeed
I’d think you would use more energy to swim in the syrup so you would get tired faster and not be able to go as far
Thank you for this, I will be needing this for my great escape across the syrup lake.
I used to swim regularly and the only thing id add is that you always get water in your mouth no matter what you do so that would *definitely* impact your swimming abilities
this bodes well for the syrup swimming pool that ive been building
Yeah, I was a bit scared mine is slowing me down
Competitive swimmer here, and im betting that the characteristics of the syrup will be different in ways that might change your technique to take advantage if the viscosity more
I think density is actually the most important factor here.
I wonder, is there certain swimming techniques that are more efficient in more viscous liquids and less in less viscous fluids and vice-versa
It's not the same, it's dependant of torque. You can see there is a difference in the speed of the flippers move. Faster in water, slower in the syrup. A strong swimmer might be faster in syrup. Your test is inconclusive
I was just paying attention to how cute the turtles were.
Their little splooshes are adorable
Same. I love them
@Psalm not even closely as cute as the real ones :))
@Psalm me too omg
I could only imagine the strain trying to swim in syrup would be it’s not faster but you need a lot more energy
This was adorable and informative. Thank you.
That's the most liquidy, diluted syrup I've ever seen
So like gravity, a larger object is harder to be pulled down by it's weight, but since it's heavier, it falls with more force, and that's why all objects fall with the same speed unless there's air resistance.
Action Lab: I made this syrup that's twice as viscous as water.Me: Oooo I wonder how he did it?Action Lab: Pours giant jug of pancake syrup into a tub.
I'd imagine at a certain viscosity it does get more difficult to swim
"Hey son, can I borrow your bath toys?""why dad?""I wanna see if you can swim in syrup"
I rewatched just cause it was so adorable seeing the little toy turtles swimming
Canadian pools be like
We actually swim in moose and keep our syrup in safes, stuffs more valuable than gold
@Gonk damm guess it's different in Toronto then
Our pools are our ice rinks for the next few months
uh excuse me? we swim on moose and when we're feeling festive, geese here.
Wait, so what happens when you leave that viscosity range? Does it slow down or speed up?
And here I was expecting an Olympic sized swimming pool full of syrup... Oh well 🤷♂️
Thanks for the info, I've been waiting to swim in syrup for a while. I'm not making fun of the vid but this is interesting
Either way you'll have to expend more energy so you'll eventually drown faster in the syrup in the water
This man always answers the questions I never knew I needed to know
Viscosity is a basic measurement of thickness and described as seconds per quart through a marsh funnel. The ability to "push off" is best described as yield point, and the relationship between the speed of the flappers in the fluid is described as centipoise. Using a viscometer, use the 600 and 300 rpm readings to measure the yield point. In a longer pool of fluid, the experiment would be better explained. The cancelation of speed is due to friction. This all changes when the fluid is being pumped and the object travels due to the velocity of the fluid. The water will fail due to its laminar flow, and the more viscous fluid will provide a more turbulent flow. Suspended solids in the fluid, which cause interference in hydraulic properties, also know as contaminants, can be tracked by a fluids plastic viscosity. Plastic viscosity causes more friction.
This man is doing what Vsauce and Hank Green never could: get to the point!
Not that I'd expect you to try it but would you in theory be more fatigued due pushing more due to the viscosity or would the viscosity also be used as leverage and cancel itself out aswell
Won't more viscous fluids require more force? You would be tired a lot faster, I think.
"I made a syrup that's twice as viscous as water"Maple syrup: "am I a joke to you"
@braxton woodruff What he didn't do was invention, not creation because he definitely did make it.
fr like this mans didn't make that lol
You're forgetting that you'll get tired faster swimming in syrup, therefore water is ultimately better
They did this on mythbusters, gotta say, it was much more entertaining to watch Jaimee Hyneman suffer through it though 😂
Buoyancy in the fluid is an exponential factor in total energy lost to drag, so I think some mention of specific gravity would be appropriate. The buoyancy of the ducks compared to humans mitigates differences caused by the key variable, as did the short course, so of course your ducks tied. You don't need to manufacture a reason to Flash-Player your duck play.
I love that you used those little turtles, they made my day
Wouldn't there be a lot more exhaustion though since you have to exert more force?
@CoolVideos4Life oh yeah that makes sense I guess, since it's easier to get movement from pushing in something more viscous
Yeah I was just thinking that. these turtles have mechanisms which makes them swim. For people however, it'll tire you out more because you have to increase your input of going against heavier syrup.
It balances out he said it is easier to push off of but it slows u down more literally cancelling each other out
This man is creating a nightmare we always had
That was a great idea to switch the turtles and the liquid that they are in excellent way to have a good control
Yay! Now I can swim in syrup 🥰
That test was very scientific.😂
"In today's episode, we put straws inside turtles to make them swim in a straight line"
@VenPai Blasted evolution…
@Noah Carruthers yes
@The Magnificent Sans so thay become biotanks?
@VenPai and developed wheels
@VenPai fuckin charging at people with Tesla shells