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  • TheBertMan
    TheBertMan 11 days ago +2149

    “anyone with two letters in their name isn’t real” chuck got me in stitches 😂

  • Context Matters
    Context Matters 10 days ago +546

    "You're the worst analogist, ever." Shaq had me cracking up with that one

    • Elijah Nakumura
      Elijah Nakumura 7 days ago +3

      @Beetle Juice 🤦🏿‍♂️

    • Beetle Juice
      Beetle Juice 9 days ago +8

      @RealRiteZaya Actually growing up in the 80's the only two rappers I knew was Vanilla Ice and M C Hammer. So he was in the mvp convo during the 80's. His song even got in the Ninja Turdles movie.

    • Anthony
      Anthony 10 days ago +1

      Was he talking about himself 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • RealRiteZaya
      RealRiteZaya 10 days ago +11

      😂😂😂 it’s true cause Vanilla Ice?

  • Charles Ticer
    Charles Ticer 11 days ago +356

    Love the "uncles at a cookout" vibe these guys always give. Just fun to watch knowledgeable guys make their case

    • KW
      KW 8 days ago +4

      And Ernie is black so it's a perfect chemistry

    • dgaubin
      dgaubin 10 days ago +3

      I was thinking the barbershop in Coming to America" but same vibe :-)

  • Sandon Crowder
    Sandon Crowder 9 days ago +179

    Jokic is having the best season by numbers, and I agree with Shaq. It’s an individual award not a team award, it’s not one players responsibility for how an entire team is doing. What is more valuable, a team to be in 3rd instead of 4th? Or a team to be in 6th instead of 15th?

    • Aleksa Prelic
      Aleksa Prelic Day ago +1

      @OACE When Jokic is on the court they are the best team in the league. When he's out they are the worst by a big margin, offensively and defensivelly

    • Aleksandar Novakovic
      Aleksandar Novakovic Day ago

      @Roy John Lou Guzon yep in talking Greek 🤣

    • Josiah Smith
      Josiah Smith 2 days ago

      ​@Kwame Ash plus steph missed a quarter of the season

    • Josiah Smith
      Josiah Smith 2 days ago

      @Kwame Ash jokic still had better stats then steph that argument just doesnt work

    • Roy John Lou Guzon
      Roy John Lou Guzon 3 days ago

      GIANNIS IS BETTER THAN JOKIC

  • aussiemika1
    aussiemika1 Day ago +3

    There is a production stat the nuggets have with and without Jokic on the court. It’s staggering how bad they are when he is on the bench resting. He’s MVP

  • Sussy🔞𝔽**СК МЕ - СНЕℂ𝕂 𝕄𝕐 Рℝ𝟘𝔽𝕀𝕃Е💛

    Shaq literally turned and fought against his own argument there. And what makes it so funny is that silent moment of realization they all had.

  • truth truth
    truth truth 2 days ago +7

    Joel Embiid 965 points this season, 298 of them from the FT line which makes up 31% of his total points this season.

    Nikola Jokic 1011 points this season, 163 of them from the FT line which makes up 16% of his total points.

  • Capone BD
    Capone BD 10 days ago +94

    I’m glad Charles brought up Embiid. I don’t think he’s the front runner, but I haven’t seen people giving him credit for how unbelievable he’s been playing recently. Definitely in my top 3 right now.

    • Darko Tosic
      Darko Tosic 2 days ago +1

      They always bring him up when he plays and then he gets injured and we always go in circles about him. He is walking injury

    • Eugene Oleary
      Eugene Oleary 4 days ago

      They did the same with Mitchell a couple years ago

  • Alec Cannold
    Alec Cannold 8 days ago +47

    Chuck always has me DYING 😂
    “Just kidding Ja Morant!”

  • Nation of domination
    Nation of domination 11 days ago +1872

    Their MVP debates are always good

    • HarryK
      HarryK 4 days ago

      Barely any logic or smart analysis but good entertainment lol

    • DeShawn Kareem
      DeShawn Kareem 5 days ago

      My popcorn stay ready every time! 🍿🍿🍿

    • Tong Zou
      Tong Zou 8 days ago

      @David Chinh But Lakers were close to 5th seed last week and Lebron wasn't in MVP contention then either. And they're missing AD due to injuries.

    • David Chinh
      David Chinh 8 days ago

      @Tong Zou Great question. Reigning MVPs are always considered to be in the race for MVP contention when they improve upon their individual statistics and keep their team in contention despite injuries to teammates who were integral to the team’s prior success.
      Last year, Jokic was the best player on the team with the 3rd best record, this year he is continuing to play at an amazing level and overcoming his teammates injuries. Remember when I talked about those outliers? In Russell Westbrook’s MVP season, the Oklahoma City Thunder were a 6th seed. LeBron’s team is currently tied for 8th team in the Western Conference with the L.A. Clippers; a team who currently has their two best players out.

    • Tong Zou
      Tong Zou 8 days ago

      @David Chinh so why is Jokic so high on the list even tho Nuggets are 6th seed?

  • Haks
    Haks 10 days ago +93

    Jokic has the potential to be the new Tim Duncan, the guy who is incredibly skilled, goes unnoticed but consistently gets it done & is immensely appreciated by basketball heads who don't buy into only the hype. The organisation just has to find a way to build a spurs-like organisation as they did with Duncan, TP & Manu otherwise he'll be out of there. Personally, TD is in my top 4 all-time and the argument can be made that he had the most perfect career ever.

    • keith Cheee
      keith Cheee Day ago +2

      tim duncan was a dpoy canidate every year

    • A D
      A D 5 days ago

      @Haks coming off the bench is a huge no ego thing you won't find a player like ginobli willing to sacrifice come off the bench. i don't think the nuggets will ever have the spurs mentality. and even when healthy i don't see the nuggets as constructed as a championship roster

    • Elijah M Pendergrass
      Elijah M Pendergrass 5 days ago

      Tim Duncan was first team defense for his whole career- so let’s relax a little bit. But I agree that nikola jokic fundamentals/all around game offensively is top tier.

    • Haks
      Haks 6 days ago

      @A D I don’t mean the same type of players, I mean the culture aspect of being a championship organisation, team basketball, playing together and for each other, no egos, forget the hype because Nuggets don’t seem to be about that, trusting their leader(s) they have great talent that’s out right now. I think they have something great, they just need to all be healthy for us to really see what they can do when everyone’s at their best.

    • Haks
      Haks 6 days ago

      @Foe_ Right, hence the “potential” part

  • Laura Rodriguez
    Laura Rodriguez 10 days ago +63

    I love the chemistry between Shaq and Chuck!! LOL They always make me laugh :)

  • DUFMAN123
    DUFMAN123 11 days ago +144

    Giannis' and KD's consistency over the year thus far is undeniable. They have to be the current frontrunners.

    • Jack L.
      Jack L. 8 days ago +2

      @Dejan Popovic 8 triple doubles as of last night's for Jokic this season so far, which he got before the clock hit 9 minutes left in the 3rd. One of those was also the fastest triple double ever in NBA history in just 14 minutes of game time, but Jokic rested for about 5 of those minutes, so call it a triple double in 9 minutes...

    • Jack L.
      Jack L. 8 days ago +2

      @Damian Moreno KD is out of this conversation now, can't miss a month or you're out like last year showed. Also Murray and MPJ have missed most or all of the season, along with everyone from their 4th star in Gordon to deep onto their bench have all missed numerous games with injuries. Which other MVP candidate hasn't seen their #2 and #3 guys not play, while they starting lineup changed at least weekly due to injuries, while still setting efficency stats and Point/Rebound/Assist totals not seen in almost 50 years?

    • Jack L.
      Jack L. 8 days ago +1

      @Chapos Shoota Nuggets are missing their 2nd and 3rd stars, every starter except Jokic has missed numerous games with injuries, their bench has also lost most of their guys for numerous games for injuries, and Jokic is still carrying them with the best efficiency rating in decades...

    • eno
      eno 8 days ago

      @Chapos Shoota He made a factual statement you don’t have to get offended brother

    • Dejan Popovic
      Dejan Popovic 8 days ago

      My man,,how many double-doubles Jokic have

  • Scythe
    Scythe 11 days ago

    Shaq literally turned and fought against his own argument there. And what makes it so funny is that silent moment of realization they all had.

  • PA1NA9THI0NA8I1KOS3
    PA1NA9THI0NA8I1KOS3 11 days ago +843

    Giannis and Joker have these stats in roughly 32-33 minutes per game and they are really close in numbers. It's quite obvious that they contribute the most to their teams respectively, with Bucks having the greater record however. So yes, when 2 players are this close stat-wise, wins should play a role. + The fact that EVERY defense in the league is literally afraid of Giannis, offense too.

    • steve in a bugatti
      steve in a bugatti 2 days ago

      @John Hopkins Giannis, Middleton, and Brie have only played like 15 games together

    • Beard Guy
      Beard Guy 5 days ago

      I think Giannis is front runner just because he’s putting these numbers up and on top of that he’s there best defender on that team and top 3 for the dpoty. Dude needs his respect

    • DYLSTER
      DYLSTER 5 days ago

      @ggtr44 Jokic is missing Jamal Murray, MPJ, and Aaron Gordon has been out for a decent amount of games yet Jokic has not only carried them to 6 seed but are the best team statistic wise when he’s on the floor vs the worst team statistics wise when he’s off the floor. If he don’t win mvp this year it will be highway robbery

    • Mahmoud
      Mahmoud 6 days ago

      @John Hopkins east is tougher than the west this season

    • VGN
      VGN 7 days ago

      @Chaser Blade Yes I know. My point is both rosters have dealt with issues all year. I'm not a fan of either of these teams, just like watching them plays.

  • Dulo Gmaz
    Dulo Gmaz 20 hours ago +1

    When you talk about MVP you should talk about everything. When you talk about Steph you gotta mention his gravity, on off numbers, when you talk about Jokic you have to mention his advanced stats, efficiency, on-off numbers, when Jokic plays Nuggets are on pace to win 63 games and when he's on the bench the Nuggets play as an 11 win team.

  • Trevor Philips
    Trevor Philips 10 days ago +3

    I love how Shaq is so Giannis fan,
    he got his back 😂

  • Ivan
    Ivan 11 days ago +152

    7:02 Yes, Harden had. Averaged 29-11-8 while being more efficient than Westbrook and leading Rockets to 3rd seed behind GSW and SAS while having Eric Gordon as his best player

    • Lesbienne House
      Lesbienne House 6 days ago

      immediately went to look for this comment, the james harden disrespect is UNREAL dudes been on a jordan level MVP tear for the past 4-5 years. for him to only have 1 is crazy

    • Goldenboat
      Goldenboat 8 days ago

      @Guy Muhimbaze Russ's team was projected to win more games than the rockets that season lol.

    • Marlon Nonya
      Marlon Nonya 9 days ago +1

      Bro I'm talking about right now

    • Trippy
      Trippy 9 days ago +1

      Kawhi had the better record and his defense is as valuable as well so I'd put him over james tho he was 2nd to me that year over russ. just look san Antonio's defense once HE left

    • GreenRunsDeep
      GreenRunsDeep 9 days ago +1

      @Guy Muhimbaze that team was still better than Houstons team

  • Aleksa Prelic
    Aleksa Prelic Day ago +1

    Jokic leads Denver in ppg, apg, rpg, spg, bpg, fg% and I'm not sure about 3pt% but he's definitely close. He has almost 2x than the second best in each of the five major statistical categories. MVP.

  • Van Hattfield
    Van Hattfield 8 days ago +1

    I am not an NBA fan at all, but I love watching these guys. Great stuff!

  • SUSSY-𝓕**СК МЕ - СНЕ𝓒𝓚 𝓜𝓨 Р𝓡0𝓕𝓘𝓛Е🔞

    Giannis and Joker have these stats in roughly 32-33 minutes per game and they are really close in numbers. It's quite obvious that they contribute the most to their teams respectively, with Bucks having the greater record however. So yes, when 2 players are this close stat-wise, wins should play a role. + The fact that EVERY defense in the league is literally afraid of Giannis, offense too.

  • dolita windo
    dolita windo 5 days ago

    Shaq literally turned and fought against his own argument there. And what makes it so funny is that silent moment of realization they all had.

  • pablo hargis
    pablo hargis 11 days ago +8

    Chuck says you have to help your team win... Jokic's on/diff with the nuggets is +22.9. The man has the team in 6th with two of the best starters out. If that's not helping your team win then I don't know what is

    • Jack L.
      Jack L. 8 days ago

      8 triple doubles as of last night too, most players won't hit 8 triple doubles in their careers and it's onky halfway though the season for Jokic...

  • Sebastian Schwald
    Sebastian Schwald 8 days ago +1

    I might not be the only one who could watch that debate for hours and hours! 😂

  • Gilho Ahn
    Gilho Ahn 11 days ago +124

    This is as stacked as a MVP race has ever been. More than 5 players are legit candidates.
    But I'm standing by my pre-season choice, Giannis Antetokounmpo to win his 3rd MVP and his 2nd DPOY.

    • kalinwang1
      kalinwang1 9 days ago

      @Larry Bird Burner Nope, Giannis is bill Russell. DRAYMON is 6'6" nothing like Russell. Giannis is the real deal. You are just bias

    • Larry Bird Burner
      Larry Bird Burner 9 days ago +2

      @kalinwang1 I’m taking about defensive smarts. He’s always everywhere at the right spots making the right plays. Besides bill Russell he might be the smartest defender ever

    • kalinwang1
      kalinwang1 9 days ago +2

      @Larry Bird Burner Giannis is smarter. Get out of here. Draymon got tricked by Lebron to get suspended in the nba finals. Not smart. Draymon is known for losing his cool and allowing others to getting his head. And draymon only can guard 1-4

    • Larry Bird Burner
      Larry Bird Burner 9 days ago +2

      @kalinwang1 draymond can guard 5s what are you talking about. Also yes giannis is taller faster and stronger but draymond is one of the smartest defenders ever

    • kalinwang1
      kalinwang1 9 days ago +1

      @Larry Bird Burner dude 1-5. Draymon is 1-4. He is 6'6". Also Giannis is stronger faster, taller, longer, your bias is showing

  • iamcityy
    iamcityy 11 days ago +21

    I low-key actually agree with Shaq this time. The best player 1-8 seed should be MVP

    • Simon
      Simon 4 hours ago

      why? teams who limp into the playoffs statistically have almost no chance to make an impact for the championship. Limping into the playoffs is not even in the same ballpark as a top 4 and top 2 team most years.

    • Intense Unboxing
      Intense Unboxing 9 days ago +2

      @kalinwang1 it is not Jokic's fault that his superb assists are wasted by missed easy and/ or open shots by his teammates

    • kalinwang1
      kalinwang1 10 days ago +3

      Only Russell Westbrook in the history of the NBA from the 6th seed has won MVP average a triple double stat padding on a bad team. Jokic is not gonna do it unless he wins more games. His stats are good but not triple double good. When Giannis had the highest PER he had the best record in the nba twice when he won back-to-back MVPs.

    • Mario Cindrić
      Mario Cindrić 10 days ago +1

      Only 1-6 going to play off. 7th and 8th seed can miss the play off, just like Warriors missed last year. Just like Shaq, you should inform yourself about rules. If we go by that logic LBJ should be included in MVP race and I want Lakers to miss the play off.

  • Rambooo
    Rambooo 11 days ago +5

    Giannis over his last 9 games:

    30pts 12 rebs 11 assists
    26pts 13 rebs 8 assists
    43pts 12 rebs 3 assists
    31pts 7 rebs 9 assists
    31pts 10 rebs 7 assists
    35pts 16 rebs 10 assists
    33pts 12 rebs 5 assists
    28pts 6 rebs 6 assists
    36pts 12 rebs 5 assists

    • Hemant Jain
      Hemant Jain 8 days ago +1

      The competition also matters. Some big games against top teams like the Nets and Warriors. They have a tough stretch with Memphis and Bulls. He shows up for those two he is the best player right now for sure.

  • iZZAEL Official
    iZZAEL Official 11 days ago +595

    I could watch them debate all day long! 😂

    • Desten Cumby
      Desten Cumby 11 days ago +1

      I was cry laughing listening to these fools tonight 🤣

    • Edward Kibirige
      Edward Kibirige 11 days ago +4

      @Abhinav Pala We understand

    • Abhinav Pala
      Abhinav Pala 11 days ago +2

      You have to understand what they are saying in the first place 🤣

    • Jorge Ramirez
      Jorge Ramirez 11 days ago +15

      NBA on ESPN and NBA TV will never come close to these guys…. EVER!!!

  • Chris Ntz
    Chris Ntz 10 days ago +6

    I understand getting tired of the same guy winning MVP every year but if Giannis keeps playing this way he must win it again🤷🏻‍♂️ he's just too good

  • lookhereholmes
    lookhereholmes 10 days ago +10

    Glad Chuck brought up Embid. Philly is playing pretty well and they are absolutely nothing without him.

  • Forza Roma Fan TV
    Forza Roma Fan TV 6 days ago

    I can't stop laughing! The best commentary in sport!

  • milesshockdepaul
    milesshockdepaul 11 days ago +1

    MVP is based on 1) Individual Performance, and 2) Impact on Team

  • Kevin O'campo
    Kevin O'campo 11 days ago +906

    Shaq defending Giannis like one Big Man to another. Respect 💯

    • Only Facts
      Only Facts 7 days ago

      @David Epoian GIANNIS isnt a PF or a CENTER.
      If the worst player in the NBA plays against amateurs he would score 100 POINTS and that doesnt mean he is better then WILT or JORDAN.
      GOT IT?
      Meaning just because GIANNIS is facing weak small guys all the time and rarely faces a real CENTER that doesnt mean he plays like a center or is a center.
      POSITIONS have definitons.

    • David Epoian
      David Epoian 8 days ago

      @Only Facts Giannis is a PF/C now, has been for the last 2 years, but either way he can play all 5 positions. Giannis has a DPOY and is a top 3 defender in the NBA, like I said, Jokic is very underrated defensively but he is NOT better than Giannis.

    • Only Facts
      Only Facts 8 days ago

      @David Epoian GUARDING pick and roll?
      SO, nobody is saying that he isnt a better perimter defender.
      Of course GIANNIS his a better Perimter defender.
      Who can guard pick and rolls.

      He is a SF/PF.
      Not a center.

    • Only Facts
      Only Facts 8 days ago

      @David Epoian SO highlights make a player now ahhaha.

    • OACE
      OACE 8 days ago +2

      @David Epoian fax joker always allows players past and barely puts up a fight. He is also a victim in the pick and roll.

  • Hollis2Hollywood
    Hollis2Hollywood 10 days ago

    NBA has been really good this season. Buzzer beaters, improved foul rules and at least 5-7 guys who belong in the mvp conversation

  • Big Fish
    Big Fish 11 days ago +1

    Shaq just killed his argument about Steve Nash winning back to back MVP'S🤣🤣🤣

  • James pollard
    James pollard 10 days ago

    lol I swear I love these guys 🤣😂 especially when they decided who should be MVP

  • SolaceAndBane
    SolaceAndBane 10 days ago +2

    What am I supposed to do about Jokic? Dude is unreal when you watch his impact and analytics

  • Giga 13
    Giga 13 11 days ago +13

    Part of the redeeming thing about this season is that there are so many good players and teams and it's been really fun to watch

  • Bahawal
    Bahawal 10 days ago

    Shaq is right, the way MVP is awarded is so flawed. If you literally award it based on the 'most valuable player', then Jokic has to be right up there (as well as Durant, Embiid, Giannis and LeBron)

  • mhhm mhhm
    mhhm mhhm 11 days ago +11

    Id say giannis just because he seems to still be improving as a player while already being an MVP talent, that same case can be made for embiid and jokic too. Shoutout to Steph and KD too they killin it gonna be a good race this year!

  • bilishu aliss
    bilishu aliss 4 days ago

    I low-key actually agree with Shaq this time. The best player 1-8 seed should be MVP

  • ReGGiEbayer95
    ReGGiEbayer95 11 days ago +19

    Loving Ja right now, can’t wait to see grizzlies make a deep run

    • HellSeventeen
      HellSeventeen 10 days ago

      On god , they scary good

    • 773 ohh
      773 ohh 10 days ago +1

      They give me that early 2010s grizzlies grit n grind vibe

  • Jugjeet Chahal
    Jugjeet Chahal 11 days ago +273

    The nuggets are only afloat because of Jokic. What Jokic is doing with Walmart cashiers and Uber drivers on his roster without a single complaint is admirable

    • Frostshokula
      Frostshokula Day ago

      @Kisha LaShawn
      And so did Jokic.

      Being a good 3 point shooter and having short stints of greatness doesn’t give you the MVP title.

      Show me actual evidence why Steph deserved it more without being subjective.

    • Kisha LaShawn
      Kisha LaShawn 2 days ago

      @Josiah Smith that’s 88% fyi

    • Kisha LaShawn
      Kisha LaShawn 2 days ago

      @Josiah Smith you’re a liar 🤥
      Steph played in 63 of 72 games. Stop making up “facts”. 🙄

    • Josiah Smith
      Josiah Smith 2 days ago

      @Kisha LaShawn he missed a quarter of the season

    • Kisha LaShawn
      Kisha LaShawn 3 days ago

      @Frostshokula you’re delusional! Steph was breaking all kinds of records last season, all while carrying his team!

  • nanotech2080
    nanotech2080 11 days ago +24

    I think the problem is everybody has their own measuring tape when it comes to what is a MVP. If there was a solid, good definition of this, 90% of the arguments would fly out the window.

  • Daniel Aguillon
    Daniel Aguillon 8 days ago

    Ernie is like alright just cut they’re gonna go on for a good while 😆 😂 bro knows when to talk and listen. He the real MVP

  • Willpower
    Willpower 10 days ago +1

    Except for the Westbrook triple double years, the MVP always goes to the best player on the best team.

  • QuietMood
    QuietMood 10 days ago +9

    Loving the chemistry between all of em. Good stuff.

    • QuietMood
      QuietMood 9 days ago +4

      @New Age don’t bring that into this lol

    • New Age
      New Age 9 days ago

      Coz they are all Pisces

  • PengxueYG
    PengxueYG 9 days ago +2

    with what jokic is doing right now he just might win again. hes carrying that team pretty hard, giannis carries bucks when the others are out due to injuries/covid while steph is carrying a new team as well. its close but if jokic keeps them in 6th still hes gonna win back to back

  • Hannah Rachel
    Hannah Rachel 11 days ago

    All that was missing was Chuck saying, “Fool!” 😂

  • tokyorift
    tokyorift 10 days ago +26

    The irony of Shaq fighting Chuck on his “winning” criteria, yet he’s always the first to bring up his rings 🤣 Shaq just like to fight man

  • Walter Sykes
    Walter Sykes 10 days ago +1

    Luv Kenny's Van Ice take...I'm dying laughing...😆🤣😂

    • CJBOSSIN 97
      CJBOSSIN 97 10 days ago

      He's not wrong tho. Numbers vs actual making an impact 😂

  • Alex2570
    Alex2570 10 days ago +1

    This was genius. Shaq and Charles thought they chose Curry... Very smart NBA on TNT, very smart. Also Kenny- good decision :)

  • Shymick Lango
    Shymick Lango 11 days ago

    Kenny's analogy made perfect sense you can have the numbers and still not be the best

  • H20
    H20 10 days ago

    We went on 2 different win streaks 😂😂 one without ja and one with him and both of them we went against too contending teams

  • Albert Wasterfall
    Albert Wasterfall 11 days ago +4

    That maximum effort narrative about Westbrook is so untrue, defence and off ball play are part of the game and I don't see him make any effort when he doesn't have the ball. MVP criteria is clear but Jokic is definitely disrespected, sadly I think it'll be like Giannis and he'll still be disrespected after winning a title

  • James Hdog
    James Hdog 8 days ago +1

    It’s weird that Shaq is downplaying winning but he always goes to the “ how many rings you got “ line when arguing with Chuck

  • Michael Jowers
    Michael Jowers 11 days ago +6

    There are legitimately 6-8 players who can be considered for MVP this year.
    Giannis, Steph, KD, Joker, Embiid, Derozan, Lebron.

    • Hemant Jain
      Hemant Jain 8 days ago

      LeBron missed too much time so I would replace him with Morant. I think Joker and Giannis should be top two and then Curry given who they haven't had due to injuries on their team. KD has Harden. Derozan had a stacked starting 5 right now and Embid also missed too much time. Consistency is important not just getting hot for the last month or so. I would put Giannis over Joker given record so both record and numbers count. I put Joker over Curry since you need to be a two way player adding to your how important you are but Curry is having an amazing year with 2nd and 3rd best players out with Klay just coming back which is why they are my top 3. He gets doubled most of the game and is still getting past 27 points. He more important than KD and Demar who don't handle the ball as much.

  • ScheffCityVibes
    ScheffCityVibes 5 hours ago

    MVP is a player award but the value is calculated from the team perspective. That's why it's such an important award. The value is derived from the team's SUCCESS. That's why wins matter.

  • Shimazu Toyohisa
    Shimazu Toyohisa 20 hours ago

    My top 5 for MVP are: Giannis, Steph, KD, Jokic and Embiid in that order..... for now.

  • Trunx Kraft
    Trunx Kraft 11 days ago

    At 5:22 Chuck slapped Kenny’s arm like he was a bad child 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • TheNamesDitto
    TheNamesDitto 10 days ago

    I agree with Shaq. You should be in the playoffs but more importantly, you have to be important and dominant!

  • When Is dinner
    When Is dinner 11 days ago +3

    Michael Jordan and Westbrook are the only two players that won without having a top-four seed team. Westbrook averaged a triple-double. Michael Jordan average 35 points per game and won defensive player of the year

    • Anthony Celestin
      Anthony Celestin 10 days ago

      That’s not true for Jordan. The lowest seed Jordan ever had for an MVP year was the 3rd seed in the East in 1988

  • Joaquin Miranda
    Joaquin Miranda 11 days ago

    I was agreeing with Kenny but lost it with the Vanilla Ice analogy 😂😂😂

  • Javier Cisneros
    Javier Cisneros 11 days ago +344

    Chuck “no one walks around saying there number six” 😂. The best show on tv 🔥🔥🔥

    • MoxFulder
      MoxFulder 9 days ago

      Yeah, and his pick for MVP Embid is 5th, like 76ers are 1st...they are not, so they definitely disrespecting Jokic.
      But I must admit one thing, best MVP race in a long time, it's realy hard to choose the winner.

    • Isasuke3G
      Isasuke3G 11 days ago

      @Zzz Vain 6”1 him and trae young have side by side pictures

    • Shortie
      Shortie 11 days ago

      @NESGTorro this is just the league finally protecting its investments

    • NESGTorro
      NESGTorro 11 days ago

      @Shortie stop it

    • Zzz Vain
      Zzz Vain 11 days ago

      @Shortie WARRIORS SAID THAT TOO FOR KLAY

      NOW LOST 40 PTS VS BUCKS LOL . ZION WILL NEVER COME. HE IS FOOD SELLOUT MARKETING

  • MyTake
    MyTake 9 days ago

    Entertainment first, analysis second...I love these cast.

  • Ace0Matic
    Ace0Matic 11 days ago

    3:10
    Ernie: "How about Kevin Durant?"
    Chuck: "hE's PLaYiNg WeLL"

    😂😂😂 I can't! I just can't!!!

  • Live From The Motherland

    4:28 shaq literally argued against himself and proved their point

  • Brendan Gav
    Brendan Gav 10 days ago +1

    I would argue a great player on a six seed is more valuable to their team then a great player on a one seed. That one seed would make the playoffs with or without that player in most cases, meanwhile the six seed is being dragged to the playoffs by that one good player making them more valuable

  • Cassius 2206
    Cassius 2206 11 days ago +305

    Shaq literally turned and fought against his own argument there. And what makes it so funny is that silent moment of realization they all had.

    • Fred the Fish
      Fred the Fish 6 days ago

      Idk I think it just means there are exceptions to the rule. Westbrook had a historic season on a team that probably wasn't going to win without him. I think that fits his definition of MVP.

    • Nm Jayo
      Nm Jayo 9 days ago

      @V Beard yea with less talent than the miami heat and the Boston celtics also dwights magic.when he was defensive player of the year.. The bulls didnt have as much talent and d rose should have won that.. I still dont know of you understand what im saying here talent is key in my eyes if you have 3 or more spots filled in your starting lineup with all stars.yes the team with less.all stars and around the same amount of wins. im voting for team 2 and there best player he has less to work with while still putting up great # and good wins.. Everyone is trying to make this soley about wins.. When thats not what the award is

    • V Beard
      V Beard 9 days ago

      @Nm Jayo DRose and the Bulls were also the top seed in the East that year so winning played a bigger role than numbers

    • Nm Jayo
      Nm Jayo 9 days ago

      See everyone here has to actually understand my point or your arguements you state arent valid to me..yes jokic won last year i think he did deserve it yes it led to winning.. But its not like he has 3 superstar players with him last year he had good role players under him.... Years before that it was giannis. James harden and russel won there mvp soley based on stats they werent the most winming teams those 2 years..the awards is flawed man..go back in history it was about the points not the wins they somehow changed it over the years but kept the old definition

    • V Beard
      V Beard 9 days ago

      @Nm Jayo actually bringing a good sample size that proves my point if winning matters over MVP being "based on a players numbers." Is an attempt to hurt your feelings? Stop it.

  • pancon5
    pancon5 2 days ago

    Harden had more wins and very comparable stats in Russ' MVP year.

  • goat🐐
    goat🐐 10 days ago +19

    Jokic is by far the best player, he doesn't have any true scorer in his team and he is still managing to put up incredible numbers

    • Aleksa Prelic
      Aleksa Prelic Day ago

      @Jackson Lokoff He's taking less shots than Embiid and Giannis wym?

    • Aleksa Prelic
      Aleksa Prelic Day ago

      @Chris Valentine How? He's second in defensive BPM, is 4th in most contested shots in the league and his opponents shoot 7% less on FGs when he's guarding them. Nuggets defense is one of the best in the league with him on court and is THE worst when he's off the court. Don't go along with the stereotype. Man deserves all defense this year

    • Jackson Lokoff
      Jackson Lokoff 8 days ago

      It’s not that hard to put good numbers up on a bad team

    • Chris Valentine
      Chris Valentine 10 days ago +2

      You're delusional. They're barely above .500. All his value comes from the offensive side of things. Giannis plays the least minutes and is a force on both sides. Not even close.

  • Polo22546
    Polo22546 11 days ago +2

    This MVP race is LOADED!!!

  • Bentle, The Heir Of Bentropolis

    KD been my MVP for the most part but man as of this moment i gotta give it to Giannis.

  • Nashville Choctaw
    Nashville Choctaw 11 days ago +313

    As a Dubs fan, I still gotta go with Giannis. Steph’s getting back to playing better defense, but Greek Freak is an animal.

  • Sam Penno
    Sam Penno 10 days ago +1

    When these conversations are like this the league is in a good place

  • Ben Graf
    Ben Graf 5 days ago

    I'm with Shaq 💯

  • toe kolo
    toe kolo 8 days ago

    I like how they roast Kenny at the end 😂

  • Mitchell Bassler
    Mitchell Bassler 6 days ago

    DeMar DeRozan has three things going for him: 1. Excellent stats; 2. A winning team; and 3. Memorable moments (two game winners in a row). He should be getting stronger consideration for MVP.

  • Tobster
    Tobster 11 days ago +328

    The fact that chuck said “worst analogist ever” after Kenny brought up Cole Anthony with the magic 🤣💀

    • bp
      bp 10 days ago

      Timestamp pls?

    • HI
      HI 10 days ago +3

      @Nunez Steven he’s not wrong 🤡

    • GENO 33
      GENO 33 11 days ago +4

      @Nunez Steven he didn’t chuck said it at the end of the clip

    • GENO 33
      GENO 33 11 days ago +2

      @PhdMusic03 chuck said the same thing at the end of the clip

    • Nunez Steven
      Nunez Steven 11 days ago +2

      Bro do better smh. How you getting this panel mixed up 🤦🏾

  • Jev Lon
    Jev Lon 3 days ago

    Charles is so capping xD hahahah Giannis is playing out of his mind developing all his skills.

  • Rezwan Chowdhury

    Shaq's my MVP every year.

  • JT Luxx Fifa
    JT Luxx Fifa 10 days ago +3

    Giannis for me 👍🏼

  • ladiesman987456321
    ladiesman987456321 7 days ago

    They’re forgetting that one time Kareem won mvp despite missing the playoffs.

  • Nabil Chowdhury
    Nabil Chowdhury 11 days ago +357

    Giannis and KD been killing it all year…..they never had a fall off period

    • recoil53
      recoil53 9 days ago

      @BST FITNESS Oh, and another thing you got wrong - PJ Tucker was in as the defensive specialist.
      Coach Bud greatly prefers Giannis as a help defender or, if needed, center. If you look, that's how Giannis is mainly used in the last few years.

    • Intense Unboxing
      Intense Unboxing 9 days ago

      Jokic's fall off is his knee injury and push to morris , #Jokic should also be in the conversation for MVP #NBAAllStar

    • recoil53
      recoil53 9 days ago

      @BST FITNESS Rim protector - and Giannis is headed one place.
      Lopez is out by the 3 pt line.
      But now you agree with my point - just because Durant scores on the Bucks doesn't mean that Giannis isn't captaining a top 10 defense.

    • Tong Zou
      Tong Zou 9 days ago

      @BST FITNESS are you not accounting for the fact that AD and Bron missed several games this year?

    • BST FITNESS
      BST FITNESS 9 days ago

      @recoil53 everyone scores on everyone. But Gobert is not the one who’s supposed to guard Giannis. He has no business guarding him that’s why he guards Lopez.

  • Joseph Snowden
    Joseph Snowden 11 days ago +1

    I can feel the Steve Nash animosity from Shaq when he’s talking about MVP and good teams

  • ThinkAboutit .
    ThinkAboutit . 9 days ago

    The end 😂😂😂 chuck:” Shaq I agree with you…. worst analogist ever “ 😂😂

  • TrillPill Cosby
    TrillPill Cosby 10 days ago +1

    Steph is always gonna put up those number. I feel like with the comp this year he gonna have to elevate to 30 a game. 2 more rebounds and 2 more assists. Cause Gianni’s is a DAWG. And jokic is killing even tho his teammates are dudes from La fitness.

  • DOG
    DOG 11 days ago +2

    tnt killing it , exactly what i want to see from shaq and charles

  • Eric Weems
    Eric Weems 11 days ago +405

    Shaq is so careful,he could have dissed vanilla ice so easy when they brought him up,but he didn't fall for the Bait 😂😂😂

    • Eric Weems
      Eric Weems 9 days ago

      @Slique100 100 Facts

    • SportBilly1975
      SportBilly1975 10 days ago

      Vanilla Ice has been the MVP of that year. What's controversial with that? Drake didn't exist when Vanilla was there.

    • Slique100 100
      Slique100 100 10 days ago +3

      Shaq is always on top of stuff like that, unless he brings it up, he won't run with it, you see how he does Charles, he never says anything about the women in San Antonio, but he always get Charles to talk about them, same with Zion

  • Jamal Black OP Chakuu Negro Crawford

    Giannis vs Curry vs Joker vs Durant vs Embiid vs DeRozan
    All fighting for MVP! 🏆🔥

  • Sharks Guai
    Sharks Guai 10 days ago

    I'm with Shaq here, individual performance is the main MVP... A player that brings the most game for a franchise is for sure the most valuable player in the league.

  • Arnold K
    Arnold K 4 days ago

    The year Westbrook won MVP it was a "tight race" most the season. Had OKC not made the playoffs there as a chance he wouldn't have won MVP even tough he averaged a triple-double!!!

  • Sai Lalanabaravi

    Embid dropped 50 in less than half an hour 🤯 insane

  • erwerwe werwer
    erwerwe werwer 11 days ago +203

    Kenny's sold me in. Vanilla Ice is my MVP for this season.

    • Wis Dom
      Wis Dom 10 days ago +2

      @washedFM It wasn't good, it was popular. lol.

    • washedFM
      washedFM 11 days ago +4

      Ninja rap from tmnt II was good

    • Sea Pea
      Sea Pea 11 days ago +3

      @CJFRM3658 It's because he was white AND had a hit song.

    • Dusk
      Dusk 11 days ago +1

      Ice Ice Baby.

      And Jean Mourat, Charles's candidate.

    • CJFRM3658
      CJFRM3658 11 days ago +6

      One hit Wonder

  • Trippy
    Trippy 9 days ago +2

    The year Russell won it shoulda went to Kawhi. it was between them 2 and James harden, but kawhi was a avg. 26 on a 60+ win team and by far the better defender. all those guys had incredible seasons chuck

  • DeshawnNBAParody
    DeshawnNBAParody 10 days ago

    “That’s helping our point shaq” 😂

  • Zachary Klinger
    Zachary Klinger 11 days ago

    I think wins matter to an extent.
    You don't have to be the 1st or 2nd seed to win MVP. Westbrook was a great example. He had the stats but his team was the 5th or 6th seed in the west.

    I personally feel Joel Embid should be MVP. He's carrying the 76ers to success. If he left and they kept Simmons with this roster I think they're fighting for the play in game. Embid is more valuable to his team then any other player.

  • Camille Marilleau
    Camille Marilleau 10 days ago

    The fact that chuck said “worst analogist ever” after Kenny brought up Cole Anthony with the magic

  • Trystan Green
    Trystan Green 4 days ago

    Let’s be honest MVP in the NBA means Most Valuable Player for the Most Valuable Team

  • Simon
    Simon 4 hours ago

    Shaq digging his own logical grave since..always! bahahahaha